The Business of Ski Resorts

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References:
[1] www.powder.com/stories/news/single-day-lift-ticket-at-vail-hits-209/
[2] www.newenglandskihistory.com/lifts/listbycost.php
[3] www.vailresortsretail.com/careers/benefits/; asc-mbs.com/benefits-overview-and-requirements/
[4] www.zillow.com/aspen-co/home-values/
[5] www.zillow.com/manhattan-ny/home-values/
[6] aschousing.managebuilding.com/Resident/PublicPages/CustomPage.aspx?cp=21
[7] www.denverpost.com/2019/12/29/colorado-transit-mountain-towns/
[8] www.nationalforests.org/our-forests/your-national-forests-magazine/the-future-of-ski-resorts-on-public-lands
[9] www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ski_water_rights/documents/ski_area_program_info.pdf
[10] www.economist.com/business/2017/02/09/snow-making-companies-in-a-warming-world
[11] www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378016305556?via%3Dihub
[12] www.epicpass.com/passes/epic-pass.aspx; www.ikonpass.com/en/shop-passes/ikon-base-pass-2019-2020

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  1. Kamikaze
    Kamikaze
    3 uur geleden

    im going skiing on Wednesday so im watching ski videos

  2. JA MES
    JA MES
    23 uur geleden

    Why are Winter Olympics in Beijing then? Biggest world polluter with crappy artificial snow. I’d protest that if I were competing. Why don’t those towns use rain systems instead of busses. Also, the climate change aspect you’re talking about is total shit. Make better videos

  3. Cass Willard
    Cass Willard
    Dag geleden

    No mention of summer activities like downhill Mountain Bike Parks at many of the these places as a source of revenue.

  4. S Cv
    S Cv
    Dag geleden

    Tahoe...... So expensive!

  5. Michael Cerean
    Michael Cerean
    3 dagen geleden

    🧐🧐 Not sure if they’re buying up all the resorts to mitigate risk and lower their prices Or...... To monopolize the industry and raise their prices.

  6. Ghazy Pangerang
    Ghazy Pangerang
    3 dagen geleden

    Don't ski resorts convert themselves into bike parks during hotter seasons?

  7. Adam D
    Adam D
    5 dagen geleden

    I’ve worked for Vail resorts for seven years most of this information is wrong. The employee housing that they bought is cheap subsidize land that they Did not pay very much money for. They paid contractors not very much money to build them. As far as general Housing goes the employee housing is extremely cheap for them. Yet they charge up to $700 per month for the employees to live there. The employee Housing stands for over 30 years.. to say that employee housing costs Vail or Aspen money is ridiculous they’re actually making thousands of dollars a week off of their employees so in reality they’re actually paying their employees less than minimum wage because they’re making money off of their housing because they own the only affordable housing in town. The largest cost to ski resorts is actually snow making and electricity to run the lifts. It’s extremely expensive and often times local municipalities or national forest want a cut of that as well most of their profits actually come not from Lift sales but from restaurants and food courts something you claimed cost them lots of money. Another thing is until 2020 they never had a labor shortage ever. They will fire you over nothing because they know there’s another young kid waiting to take the job. A lot of what you said here was completely inaccurate. you should’ve called someone actually worked at ski resort for a decade like I have before you said a lot of incorrect information here man.

  8. Will Davids
    Will Davids
    6 dagen geleden

    Snow and cold? No thanks!

  9. Richard Johnson
    Richard Johnson
    6 dagen geleden

    These ski resort companies have made me stop lift skiing. Thank god for backcountry skiing and earning your turns. I have no desire to go to any resort and deal with the BS.

  10. dylan carmel
    dylan carmel
    6 dagen geleden

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  11. Diana Mincher
    Diana Mincher
    6 dagen geleden

    Many thanks for this super video.

  12. Pertti Hei
    Pertti Hei
    7 dagen geleden

    Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!

  13. Seán Hannan
    Seán Hannan
    7 dagen geleden

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  14. Kryozzz
    Kryozzz
    7 dagen geleden

    Is wendover production also the same guy as hai?

  15. Ali K
    Ali K
    8 dagen geleden

    lol he aint wrong, i'm flying out to aspen this upcoming thursday

  16. 平野愛実
    平野愛実
    9 dagen geleden

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  17. Dankrupt
    Dankrupt
    9 dagen geleden

    I thought the jobs at ski resorts are popular, like they have wait lists or something. At Whistler/Blackcomb, most of the workers said they are foreigners and get a special deal to stay there and work at the same time during the season

  18. Jeffery Zielinski
    Jeffery Zielinski
    11 dagen geleden

    It's like you got pulled into a sob story by a ski exec... Although you mention the consolidation, you don't mention how it has facilitated drastic and rapid increases in ticket price, thereby undercutting your argument that it's expensive, because none of the factors you mentioned have changed in proportion to ticket prices... You say "Some ski resorts will actually get more snow" -- so no worries for the consumer, but "Season variability will increase" -- the viewer should feel bad for the resort's profitability... Ski resorts are also super exploitative towards their workers (e.g. housing subservience increases power, the people available to work are willing to do anything to ski, etc.)... Not to "both sides" things, but it would be more informative if the peoples' side was spoken (too)...

  19. Blue Harvest
    Blue Harvest
    11 dagen geleden

    In Quebec you see more and more mountains adapting for summer activites (Mountain biking, hiking and even having water parks).

  20. saddlepiggy | The Purple Pig
    saddlepiggy | The Purple Pig
    11 dagen geleden

    This thumbnail is amazing.

  21. Sean Yang
    Sean Yang
    13 dagen geleden

    to think that the joy of skiing in ungroomed snow could soon be taken away from us... 😔

  22. Mike Parrott
    Mike Parrott
    18 dagen geleden

    This nahhhht bad! Nice work

  23. Tmb1112
    Tmb1112
    18 dagen geleden

    Ski lessons: cost upwards of $250-500 Me teaching that lesson: Makes under $50 per lesson

  24. Tim F
    Tim F
    18 dagen geleden

    209 $ for the lift ticket of a ski resort that has 32 lifts. In Austria the ski resort Saalbach which has 70 lifts, one day of skiing costs 56 € or 64$

  25. Abigail Layton
    Abigail Layton
    19 dagen geleden

    I just got a raise at a ski resort haha. Someone has to pay for it

  26. Didrik f
    Didrik f
    19 dagen geleden

    (10:58) "Target acquired warlock"

  27. Mountaineer Matt
    Mountaineer Matt
    19 dagen geleden

    here in Ontario Canada a typical lift ticket is 30-50 bucks lol

  28. Kat Cosby
    Kat Cosby
    19 dagen geleden

    Ski areas are shady! I should know I live in one!

  29. Stan The Man
    Stan The Man
    22 dagen geleden

    Uh global warming is f ake

  30. Lawson H.
    Lawson H.
    23 dagen geleden

    Anybody here know about a resort called Holiday Valley?

  31. Forgotten Places
    Forgotten Places
    25 dagen geleden

    What is that song in the 3-4 min mark?

  32. David Bäcker
    David Bäcker
    25 dagen geleden

    In Austria, you pay 60$ for a Day in much better ski resorts. They reach from village to village and are not just 32 lifts packed together on just one mountain. Jst Google Ski Arlberg for example

  33. joda red
    joda red
    26 dagen geleden

    In Europe skiing is very cheap, it's around 25€ for a daily ticket in a resort hou have around 10lifts

  34. lere snipez
    lere snipez
    Maand geleden

    Let’s be honest if they didn’t make money they wouldn’t exist

  35. TrailsVonMudder
    TrailsVonMudder
    Maand geleden

    10:10 - whoa I see my lil small town PA mountain

  36. Brandon
    Brandon
    Maand geleden

    Subway or ski resort I’ll take ski resort. Of all the factors thousands of employees thousands of miles of roads for these employees you name the one thing they can’t control climate change as the number one issue. John Carrie just said from the podium even if we get US omissions to zero which is impossible they would still be 90% global omissions stop lying to yourself and others about climate change scam

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  39. Lord Sarcasm
    Lord Sarcasm
    Maand geleden

    all these skilifts looked outdated. *Laughts in Alps and 50€ skipass*

  40. Alice Warnick
    Alice Warnick
    Maand geleden

    raised part-time in a colorado ski town (breckenridge) and local ski culture is super unique. hard skiiers (like my dad) would wake up at 4am, take the bus to the slope, and "skin" up the mountain- that's where you put these weird fluffy attachments on your skis that grip the snow so you can walk up it- 6 out of 7 days in the week. everyone skied, it was really the only conversation point, and everyone was damn good at it- just about any born and raised local bragged about how they placed on the Imperial Challenge and were on ski patrol (the really good skiers who are hired to be cops/search and rescue on the slopes). It was interesting and I don't regret my time as a ski bum, but I'm glad I joined the real world eventually.

  41. Ed Brook
    Ed Brook
    Maand geleden

    “The most basic form of lift is a chair lift” actually when I first started skiing the lifts were basically ropes that would drag you along and I broke my leg on it. Chair lifts seemed luxurious after that

  42. David Simon
    David Simon
    Maand geleden

    The one missing aspect is the real estate component which has figured into the business model of resorts located on more private land.

  43. ClazziKz
    ClazziKz
    Maand geleden

    Europe: Has 80+ lifts for about 50 - 100 dollars Me: *Laughs in European*

  44. Taco Keijzer
    Taco Keijzer
    Maand geleden

    I live in europe and a lift pas here is normaly abouth €60 a day

  45. darklord
    darklord
    Maand geleden

    Heavenly at lake tahoe is as expensive as vail. 164$ from 9 to 4, insane..

  46. Jussi Kauramäki
    Jussi Kauramäki
    Maand geleden

    why is there video from Ruka finland?

  47. Jussi Kauramäki
    Jussi Kauramäki
    Maand geleden

    How the fuck are those prices so high, in the alps you ski for the fucking week for 300€.... Its like 30€ for a day

  48. Start Now - Game End
    Start Now - Game End
    Maand geleden

    Do a computor building business or a computor part building business

  49. Dean Maxwell
    Dean Maxwell
    Maand geleden

    You can actually make snow in temperatures as high as 50° by using colder water and turning up fan speed. The real killer is humidity. If it's too humid, you get no snow. Source: Being a snowmaker at a local resort

  50. pinew
    pinew
    Maand geleden

    mountains are cool

  51. Matt the Slav
    Matt the Slav
    Maand geleden

    2:37 lets all appreciate that good boi in the background

  52. Ervin Guinto
    Ervin Guinto
    Maand geleden

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  53. Mediarahan
    Mediarahan
    Maand geleden

    Worth noting that a lot of resorts also have MTB trails that help out during off seasons.

  54. keco185
    keco185
    Maand geleden

    2:10 everything you mention there pays for itself outside of ticket costs

  55. Ronald Rice
    Ronald Rice
    Maand geleden

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  56. Sebastian MARCIANO
    Sebastian MARCIANO
    Maand geleden

    Not good video

  57. donnaddrake
    donnaddrake
    Maand geleden

    Or just go to Salt Lake where most of the ski resorts are 30 minutes from SLC and Park City is a pretty good sized town

  58. Michael Steven
    Michael Steven
    Maand geleden

    Climate change? China could care less about American ski resorts.

  59. Z E P H Y R
    Z E P H Y R
    Maand geleden

    My local mountain has 4 lifts and day tickets are like $30 while season passes are like $325 or something, it’s one of the only non-profit ski resorts in the world

  60. Leggo My Ego
    Leggo My Ego
    Maand geleden

    I wouldn't want to be in the ski resort business anywhere outside of Canada.

  61. cherry limeade
    cherry limeade
    Maand geleden

    I couldn't have been the only person that paused the video and looked for my local ski resort lol. It was on there.

  62. Khu NoPie
    Khu NoPie
    Maand geleden

    Some place warm, a place where the beer flows like wine, where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talking about a little place called Aspen.

  63. Emilio Alban
    Emilio Alban
    Maand geleden

    FYI, you made a mistake at 5:25. The bus system in the Roaring Fork valley is called the RFTA, for Roaring Fork (as in the roaring fork valley, the valley that Aspen is in) Transit Authority, not the RTFA.

  64. Kieran Cooke
    Kieran Cooke
    Maand geleden

    Where I live my ski resort is not terribly expensive (160$ for a season pass and 200$ for seasonal ski rentals) but all the snow is fake snow cuz we never get any snow anymore which is kinda sad

  65. Just Larry
    Just Larry
    Maand geleden

    so this is the first year that val has owned my locals Boston mills brandy and alpine, and god damn has it been rough. They are so miss managed and prices went up 2x. I don't even know if I want to ski there this season it's so bad.

  66. Michiel Smals
    Michiel Smals
    Maand geleden

    Chair lift for 1 person? Damn in my 15 years skying I have seen a 2 person lift 1 time, and a 1 person lift never.

    1. mamoopy
      mamoopy
      Maand geleden

      maybe he's counting button lifts?

  67. Zombsroyale TEDDY
    Zombsroyale TEDDY
    Maand geleden

    Where is the dusk image at? It looks beautiful.

  68. Andrew H
    Andrew H
    Maand geleden

    Those towns water supply also needs to be able to accommodate 2-4x the offseason demand which could be an interesting video.

  69. David N.
    David N.
    Maand geleden

    Ski is an expensive sport.

  70. Antonio Norton
    Antonio Norton
    2 maanden geleden

    Ok explain the 700$ private classes

  71. Jesse Espinosa
    Jesse Espinosa
    2 maanden geleden

    Wow dude you completely forgot about an entire season called summer. Those resorts make a ton of money to supplement the failing reliable snowfall and impact to the business that subsequently follows, by allowing access, and building special trails for, mountain bikes. Mountain bikes are far more expensive than skis. By many orders of magnitude.

  72. MrBeans
    MrBeans
    2 maanden geleden

    lol i work at a resort. so i found this very interesting lol. Ours is Owned by the County/town and not some big corporation, so our tickets are much cheaper. and yes Dopplemeyer high speed lifts are NOT cheap! and you still gotta factor in actually running the things almost 24/7, (as well as having 3-4 ppl manning the lift at all times) as well as maintenance, snow making, grooming, we employ almost 1,000 people every winter too. as well as Summers, most mountains will run lifts all summer long too for other activities like biking and hiking and such. when i worked at copper in Colorado we had a lot of ppl from other countries, New Zealand, Australia, south africa. and they would juts come for the season then go home. but they have employee housing which is very very cheap. yup its all rented! lol not Gunstock we own the land. hes not kidding when he says its a never ending cycle. colorado has some of the best public transportations systems ive ever seen. a lot of people hitchhike too

  73. Maxima
    Maxima
    2 maanden geleden

    It's the same as every other US company....price gouge

  74. Brand-ON-
    Brand-ON-
    2 maanden geleden

    Bruh I’m at a ski resort rn 😳

  75. BigDickEnergy dinosauerier
    BigDickEnergy dinosauerier
    2 maanden geleden

    Damn skiing in America is expensive as shit, another reason I’m happy living in Europe. Like I was skiing yesterday and it was one of the pricier ones about 30€ a day. And today cross-country skiing, of course for free. I’m from Austria btw. And thanks for that informativ video!! It’s awesome!!

  76. Luke Michalowski
    Luke Michalowski
    2 maanden geleden

    whats to stop me from taking a snowmobile and a friend and riding up public land and boarding down?

  77. Łuaksz
    Łuaksz
    2 maanden geleden

    6:55 what resort is that. It looks beautiful

  78. Matthew Szoke
    Matthew Szoke
    2 maanden geleden

    Was the footage at 7:46 shot at Jasna Ski Resort in Slovakia, by any chance?

  79. Gun Sum Wong
    Gun Sum Wong
    2 maanden geleden

    The analysis is on American resorts only. European Alpine and Scandinavian resorts are different and more affordable. Generally American resorts are not easy to get to, catering for wealthy visitors mainly, have a lot fewer lifts which are basic and outdated and have the most expensive ski pass system in the world. European resorts, especially in Austria, Switzerland and Northern Italy are for weekend recreations by the locals. They are a lot smaller but more numerous. Some European resorts are many times bigger than the biggest North American resorts. An America chairlift can have several queues but European chairlift is always one-queue system. Additional queues are for instructors and children and they are only restricted to the French resorts. Some American resorts do extreme skiing while European skiing is for holiday and weekend recreation.

  80. Teacher Guy
    Teacher Guy
    2 maanden geleden

    It would be more interesting if you would take a deep dive into the actual financials of these would-be monopolists. Yes, it's expensive to run a ski area, but what ARE the real returns on equity when you don't drop the $20 million executive pay packages (that's Vail in recent years) out of the calculation? And what do they pay the South American college students working the seasonal jobs on J1 visas? I've heard it's WAY less than minimum wage. The ski companies are whining about the block on J1 visas and saying they won't be profitable without them, but in the next breath are saying J1's only fill 5% of the ski area jobs. Does not compute. I think there's probably plenty of money in the near-urban and destination resort ski areas if it doesn't all go to the top execs in stock options. Katz (CEO of Vail) has gotten about $120 million that way in the past 5 years. Yes, he uses it to fund his "charitable foundation." Charity begins at home.

  81. Max H
    Max H
    2 maanden geleden

    Climate change huh? I've been hearing for 50 years now how it's warming and the snows about to end. Always seems to hold off for another year

    1. What What
      What What
      2 maanden geleden

      As someone who grew up in the french alps there is no doubt that climate change already took its toll on the ecosystem, seasons have shortened and the snow mass each year has significantly shrunken in spite of massive investment in artificial snow infrastructures (a technology that was barely used thirty years ago) This is even worst for resorts lower down the mountains, some of which have already gone out of business since they did not make enough revenues from the ever shorter seasons. Snow won’t disappear in our lifetime but the number of ski resorts will definitely shrink, packing more and more people in high altitude resorts over shorter seasons which will make it a lot less fun unfortunately.

  82. Thor knows planes
    Thor knows planes
    2 maanden geleden

    i live in park city and ski almost every day

  83. Jacob Spaulding
    Jacob Spaulding
    2 maanden geleden

    I didn’t need a climate change talk by this nutcase

  84. Dulu Gabriel
    Dulu Gabriel
    2 maanden geleden

    i guess im not the only one who searched for ksi domain and got this, right?

  85. Jackly Stackly
    Jackly Stackly
    2 maanden geleden

    This'll age badly, just wait.....

  86. xlixify
    xlixify
    2 maanden geleden

    I saw a resort that vail owns thats 5 mins from my house

  87. DW
    DW
    2 maanden geleden

    When I started snowboarding in the early 90's lift tickets were less than $30 and the lines were short so you didn't hardly have to wait for the lifts. Nowtickets are around $100 or more and the lift lines are so long you spend more time in lines that you do on the slopes. After all the extra expenses like parking, food, gas, etc you can end up spending $300-500 for a poor experience. This basically why I stopped snowboarding when I usedtogo every single weekend there was snow.

  88. Mike Qi
    Mike Qi
    2 maanden geleden

    Hi, I sell ski bags on Amazon, ADBEE ski bag

  89. k y
    k y
    2 maanden geleden

    This is epic since I go to them all the time

  90. Andrew Podolio
    Andrew Podolio
    2 maanden geleden

    the most shocking thing about this video is finding out there's ski resorts in Australia

  91. Wilson Gambade
    Wilson Gambade
    2 maanden geleden

    Wow American capitalism at its finest. As a french skier 100-209$ for a day ski pass id rather nordic ski then take the lift.

    1. Osyis R6
      Osyis R6
      Maand geleden

      Vail is shit. There are a lot of places that are cheaper or even free.

  92. JRodizAwesome
    JRodizAwesome
    2 maanden geleden

    4:21 Taking a shot at Glenwood Springs I see.

  93. Me Frosty
    Me Frosty
    2 maanden geleden

    You should talk about small ski resorts like mount Sima and how Covid has changed business for ski resorts

  94. Me Frosty
    Me Frosty
    2 maanden geleden

    You should talk about small ski resorts like mount Sima and how Covid has changed business for ski resorts

  95. Ray Rowley
    Ray Rowley
    2 maanden geleden

    One of the biggest expenses is the operation of the lifts. They typically run on diesel and must run no matter how many people show up.

  96. LegitTweaks
    LegitTweaks
    2 maanden geleden

    From 2008 to 2016 we saw hardly any snow on these mountains, 2016 came along and a certain someone wanted to utilize the governments "weather control machine" which just creates clouds with precipitation and boom it rains. I think most people forget that this is a planet we are living on and every other planet goes through some major geological changes every few thousand years to hundreds of thousands of years. If youre gunna talk about climate change, do it in a separate video otherwise it literally doesn't apply to "The Business of Ski Resorts"

  97. Rami Touhami
    Rami Touhami
    2 maanden geleden

    Bruh i got recommended this while in a ski trip

  98. Andrew Valdez
    Andrew Valdez
    2 maanden geleden

    Over here in CA, Mammoth is trying to single handedly kill the sport with their greed. 💰💰💰 $160 a lift ticket 🤣🙄🤣

  99. ATF
    ATF
    2 maanden geleden

    I have a season pass for a local independent ski resort. Even they have teamed up with other small resorts around the globe to form the “powder alliance” and provide me with three free days at many of the nations top ski resorts.

  100. Mark
    Mark
    2 maanden geleden

    1:45 Why the FUCK they are riding the open chair???